Tracy Chapman's Save Us All...really good.

From Brother Thomas: Saints vs. Warlocks

This is what I've been trying to say about the New Age, Chakras, Healing Touch, etc., but Brother Thomas says it in such a cool way that I'm posting what he recently wrote on the subject of supernatural giftings: what makes it either Godly or occultic. You can read his blog at www.justthinkoutloud.com along with some other writers, thinkers, prophets and outsiders.

SAINTS VS. WARLOCKS....GET A CLUE

by Brother Thomas

December 12, 2008

The dream state has been quite . . . er, strange, epic, sometimes disturbing, visceral, and downright intense lately . . . .

My humble take on it . . . is that a lot of *things* seem to have been loosed on the astral, spiritual planes . . . . “the airs” so to speak . . . .

I have no doubt about it myself. Combined with numerous and varied assaults and interactions with diverse beings and things . . . in that state . . . are also high level spiritual contacts, probably angelic interventions, and I don’t doubt myself, also protection, guidance by Holy Spirit . . . and maybe even the Lord and God Himself . . . . . It all seems to me like quite jumble going on there, in that realm . . . and my own observation, opinion, is that there is always a lot going on “in the airs” . . even during the waking state . . . and the difference between some people and others is simply how sensitive you are to it . . . .

Occultists know there is all this activity going on . . . entities to contact, if they want . . . and so, they spend time and ritual developing skills in that area.

Saints, on the other hand, do not seek powers or contacts from that jumbled realm, but sometimes, Holy Spirit, at God’s direction, will bring them news or information or maybe even a contact, if it suits the will of the Sovereign, and so, you may see saints, prophets etc., exhibiting similar “powers” or abilities as occultists, only the purpose is completely different–the GENESIS of the power, whether derived from a selfish pursuit (as in occultists) or it is wrought because there is something an angel or God Himself wants the saint or prophet to see or do, and so, allows Sight, powers . . . miracles . . . to occur.

One who is humbly and wholly submitted to the will of God can and will do things that witches and warlocks try and sometimes do . . . but the source and purpose of the ability is entirely different. The saint or prophet or holy man or holy woman often feels burdened . . . and does not want to use such power . . . avoids it if possible . . . thrills and delights at being weak, gentle, humble, meek, nothing . . . so that the power of God can fill them up fully and so that there is nothing of fallen self there . . . . They abhor self interest, self power, self charisma, attention to ego . . . . . . but delight in doing secret good acts, denying self, dying to self . . . . being empty . . . so that Christ’s spirit, God’s spirit, Holy Spirit can fully indwell.

But sometimes, they are called to act, and to refuse would be then putting their discomfort above God’s will, and so, you get a Moses, who must do what is asked, even though it may look like divination, magic, occult . . . . . Same with all the other prophets and holy people who must do what God asks, as they are submitted to His will. Like Jesus, when they perform miracles or appear to have special abilities, they are often accused of using witchcraft . . . using the power of demons . . . and so, it is again another sacrifice for them to simply be doing what God requires at a given moment . . . . . .

Anyhow . . . . there is a raging world, astral, spiritual, beyond the immediate physical senses . . . and some people, just as they might have good physical eyes, while others have poor vision . . . or some people run fast . . . some slow . . . some can lift heavy weight . . . others are flexible . . . so too are there simply similar variations regarding different peoples’ abilities to hear and see in the finer realms. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you are an “occultist”, a “witch” etc. Though people who CAN’T are often suspicious and jealous and will immediately and ignorantly accuse sensitive people of being such.

It is really nothing more than having different perceptive abilities, just like hearing, smelling, tasting, seeing . . . .

Many people in this overly materialistic age are just too deadened to the inner life to believe or know of these other realities. And it scares them, because they are so ignorant of it. And so they knee-jerk attack those who CAN hear and see a bit into the finer airs.

The difference between a “witch” ie., and a saint with abilities . . . is the intention, the purpose related to the abilities. A saint does not seek out these things. They come. God will show them something. Is that occult? To the materialistic, unimaginative, earth bound animal mind.. yes. Everything they don’t understand is “occult” and they just run away shouting, or try to get a mob together to “hang the witch”.

But then, what do we do with the prophets who saw into the future? The foolish and jealous people called them witches, warlocks. Yet, these were God’s prophets! What do we do with the countless saints, men and women of God, wholly given to God and Holy Spirit who are able to HEAL, raise the dead, receive warnings about future events, recognize illness within bodies . . . .

Is that all occult? Then throw out your bible. The bible is full of stories of the “supernatural”, done by God’s people, at God’s behest.

The difference between the works of evil and of good, is not whether something is “supernatural” or not . . . but WHO IS THE INSPIRING FORCE, PERSONALITY. Does the impetus come from fallen self? From the demonic? From the devil? …. then such pursuits and acts are evil.

But if God brings you intuition on something . . . if He urges you to heal . . . to predict . . . to prepare (like Noah) . . . to raise the dead . . . produce manna . . . produce water from rock . . . wine from water . . . walk on water . . . . IF GOD IS BEHIND THESE ACTS AND THE SOURCE OF THEIR IMPETUS . . . . then, foolish generation . . . don’t call it occult! It is an insult to God and bordering, if not directly a blaspheming of the Holy Spirit.

The problem is, most people are so spiritually underdeveloped themselves . . . such babes . . . so ignorant of things . . . so blind . . . that they are intimidated by the very topics of this discussion, and so, like back-woods superstitionists . . . just close their eyes, run away shouting “witch”, “occult”, “warlock” . . . . looking for fellow village idiots . . . to run, hurry and kill the “offender” in a big bonfire. As often as not, or at least many times, it is a saint or a man or woman of God who is killed, martyred because of the lack of intelligence of the mob and its goonish heads.

Well, I meant to talk about my strange and pertinent dreams last night . . . One involving a giant planet swerving hugely in the sky . . . filling up the whole sky as it neared . . . . and then the jolt that followed . . . . and then something like a pole shift . . . huge tidal waves . . . and then . . . oddly . . . a shift to whole different timeline . . . . . BUT, I got sidetracked . . . . lol . . . . .

Oh, people of God . . . of the Word . . . don’t perish for lack of knowledge . . . . BE WISE . . . wise as the serpents though gentle, gentle as the lamb, as the dove, as our Lord . . . . . But stop attacking the wrong people you village idiots. Stop parading around your ignorance, claiming it is “the word”, driven by fuzzy-headed dogma, according to your OWN interpretations . . . according to your OWN limitations . . . attacking all who are different . . . just because you don’t understand some of the deeper things–haven’t caught a few of the mysteries . . . WHICH MYSTERIES AND DEEPER THINGS GOD WILL SHOW HIS OWN, WHEN HE CHOOSES . . . . . and always has.

Read your bible. It’s all in there.

have a nice day, God sustains your every breath and you owe Him everything.

brother thomas

Lead me not into temptation...

The Lord's Prayer:
Matthew 6: 9-13

Lead me not into temptation, but deliver me from evil.

Lead me not into temptation. What is tempting you? Since this is the first part of the sentence, temptation and evil must be related to each other. Duh! Temptation. What a word! Hookers, gambling, shiny suits and pointy toed shoes...the mean streets, dark alleys, guns and cheap booze. That's what I think of when I hear the word temptation, don't you? Depravity and debauchery. Well, why would God lead us there in the first place? Have you ever wondered why this is worded the way it is? I certainly hadn't. Well, until recently, that is.

When satan tempted Jesus it wasn't with booze or women...it was with things that would make His life easier and help bypass the pain and suffering He was feeling right then and knew he would face later. Jesus was hungry so satan tempted him by taunting him and suggesting he turn a rock into bread. Jesus hadn't eaten for 40 days out in the wilderness! I would've eaten satan himself after about 5! To yield to that temptation would have meant disobedience to God and that separates us from God (which is satan's main goal...well, 2nd main goal; to kill us is his main-est goal). Temptation is to convince us to take the easy way out of our current misery rather that stick it out and wait for God to come and get us.

In the story of the temptation of Christ, Jesus was hungry, so satan's first temptation was food. What frightens you about being in the wilderness...what are you confronted with or afraid of out there, away from all you used to be and all the stuff you used to have? What do you miss the most? What gets you so wound up or consumed with fear, that you want to just say fuck it, what's the point? and go back to your old self, your old life, your old job, your old friends. What were you like back there? Selfish? Angry? Self-pitying? The Victim? The controller? Irresponsible? Perfect?

Satan leads me into temptation by using my circumstances to try and convince me that I'm no "Daughter of the King", I'm just:

"stupid ol' Beth from Ft. Lauderdale who's mother never liked her and who never remembered her homework and I'm just a spacey irresponsible idiot who will never amount to anything so why even try?? God doesn't care about me because if He did then things would be better and I wouldn't be such a disaster and I'd have a better job and make more money and get to go on vacations and my kids won't need tons of therapy to try and recover from the horrible life I gave them. "

So...depression starts in and it's like air coming out of a balloon. What happens to me when I start to go down like that? Well, I certainly don't run for my Bible and praise cd's, I'll tell you that! I just lose all motivation to follow God, do what I'm supposed to do, call who He told me to call, pray for who he told me to pray for and maybe even watch a little tv and veg out for awhile. I deserve it! My life is HARD!!! HARDER THAN ANYONE ELSE'S BECAUSE EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE FINE AND MY LIFE SUCKS!!! To be honest with you, this cycle can last up to a week or two with me.

I get tempted to feel sorry for myself, to stop believing I matter and I was a fool for thinking I had anything to offer the world for Jesus. Time for my Walmart job!!! Sorrow and despair, that's where I used to live, who I used to be and satan would love for me to just stay there. It's a comfy, cozy place for me and I don't have to do what scares me because I'm too sad. Oh well!!! Besides, the aliens are coming soon and it's gonna be all over so who cares.

Dear God,
Lead me not into self-pity, because when I go back there, satan is waiting for me at the bus station to give me a ride home...the long way, if you know what I mean. So much time is wasted, so much of my time, my talents and gifts that You gave me for Your purposes.

Deliver me from myself, my longing for things to be easy and secure. Deliver me from thinking or believing I can still be a Christian, follow Christ into the desert and not lose any of my stuff, pride, or bullshit. Help me to be a strong woman of God and not a believer who lays down in the sand to die every time I get hungry or spend all my money on art supplies and chocolate.

Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

There's no easy route from here to there. There's no way to avoid the pain of letting go of your identity in the world and accepting your identity in Jesus. It's not about us anymore, it's about Him. It's not about being safe, never being hurt, or going without. That's all gone. He's it. But, He's enough. He's more than enough, He's everything.

TEMPTATION=ME DELIVERANCE=GOD

PERIOD, END OF STORY.

kiss kiss :) Beth

Deliverance Prayer: Deliver Us From Evil

What's Being Delivered? And Where's it Being Delivered To?
And Who is the Delivery Man??

Read this verse about being delivered from the evil one, it's just one example of how the word deliver is used throughout the Bible. Read it a few times.

Psalm 33:12-22

12 Blessed (happy, fortunate, to be envied) is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people He has chosen as His heritage. 13 The Lord looks from heaven, He beholds all the sons of men; 14 From His dwelling place He looks [intently] upon all the inhabitants of the earth-- 15 He Who fashions the hearts of them all, Who considers all their doings. 16 No king is saved by the great size and power of his army; a mighty man is not delivered by [his] much strength. 17 A horse is devoid of value for victory; neither does he deliver any by his great power. 18 Behold, the Lord's eye is upon those who fear Him [who revere and worship Him with awe], who wait for Him and hope in His mercy and loving-kindness, 19 To deliver them from death and keep them alive in famine. 20 Our inner selves wait [earnestly] for the Lord; He is our Help and our Shield. 21 For in Him does our heart rejoice, because we have trusted (relied on and been confident) in His holy name. 22 Let Your mercy and loving-kindness, O Lord, be upon us, in proportion to our waiting and hoping for You.

Read this one too.

Psalm 59:1

DELIVER ME from my enemies, O my God; defend and protect me from those who rise up against me.

2 Cor 1:10

[For it is He] Who rescued and saved us from such a perilous death, and He will still rescue and save us; in and on Him we have set our hope (our joyful and confident expectation) that He will again deliver us [from danger and destruction and draw us to Himself],

Now here is a VERY typical prayer used by Deliverance Ministries everywhere. This was taken off a deliverance website, www.greatbiblestudy.com Read it a couple of times:

Breaking soul ties

Heavenly Father, I confess and repent of the sin of _______

____ (name the sin which caused the evil soul tie, such as adultery or fornication), and I ask that you forgive me of this sin.

[Now is a good time to destroy or get rid of any physical gifts or other objects that could hold the soul tie together, such as a gift given in an adultery, etc. Anything that could hold the bond together between you and that person.]

In the name of Jesus, and by the power of His blood, I now renounce, break and sever all unholy soul ties formed between ___________ (name the person) and myself, through the sin of ____________ (name the sin which caused the evil soul tie, such as adultery or fornication).

I now command any evil spirits which have taken advantage of this unholy soul tie to leave me now in the name of Jesus!

(Repeat this prayer if you have more then one evil soul tie to break)

Now, who is doing the delivering here? Either the person themselves or the deliverance minister. But Biblically, from Scripture, what do we know about being delivered? We know that:

1. God delivers us.
2. God delivers us FROM evil.
3. God delivers us TO safety.
4. God delivers judgment.
5. God delivers us FROM evil and DRAWS US TO HIMSELF.

Think about the word deliverance. A baby is delivered FROM it's mother, to the

world. A package is taken from one place and delivered to another. Now, to put ourselves in that context, you could say that we are the package -- is the location delivered from the package, or the package delivered from one location TO another?

We humans are so arrogant. How did we go from asking the Lord to deliver us from the evil one to commanding the evil one to leave us in Jesus' name? Take the bad location out of the package while the package just sits there and doesn't have to do anything! That is so human nature, isn't it? We're either the beaten down victim who keeps looking for someone to fix us or we're the victor who will now be the fixer upper. Seriously. It's like the Chakras I've been thinking about and writing about...we are so lazy that if we're sick we just want to take a pill and keep on keepin' on with our same old ways. We don't want change to hurt or cost us much energy: " just take it away from me so I can get on with things." Two days later we want to start our own ministry or go on the public speaking circuit, write a book, plant a church, and have a fund raiser.

Did God deliver Egypt from the Israelites?? Nooooo. He made them pack up all their shit and move out of that land where they were helpless, worthless and powerless slaves and head to the Promised Land where they would be helpful, worthy and powerful free people of God. How did our forefathers and foremothers deal with this? Not well. Whine, complain, bitch, moan, sin, try to hitch hike back to Cairo, built the golden calf...anything to avoid the pain of letting go of what was, which, by the way, was a horrible life. Maybe life in Egypt sucked, but it beat the hell out of walking in the desert, eating the same stuff every day, sleeping outside, and dealing with all their fears about "what if"...

True deliverance is not simply having people with southern accents, comb overs and head sets hitting us on the forehead and commanding the demon of lust to leave in Jesus' name. God never allows His children to be so passive when moving from what was to what is, from who we aren't to who we are. First of all, we have to recognize that we're not living the lives that Jesus died to give us; to be really clear about where the wounds are, where they came from and how they are keeping us in chains, preventing us from going anywhere. That in and of itself is hard work and we have to face some pretty painful truths. This is a time very few Christians want to take because it's the desert...a lot of whining, bitching, moaning, grieving, fighting, trying to hitch-hike back home, etc. Basically, it's you and God. No ministry, no speaking engagements, no church plant, no website with blinking lights or e-newsletters announcing your upcoming events. Human beings want to skip the messy stuff that lies between where we are and where we want to go; the path of least resistance is the shortest route between two points.

We want to look like this:

While we walk through this:



But this might be a little closer to what we look like after we've been doll-housed by the desert:



In our minds, we think it's just a spiritual process that won't affect our outer circumstances or that maybe we start out like the guy above, go through the desert and end up like the Egyptian stud at the top.

There is a time in a believer's life that he or she has to ask the Lord to deliver them from the grip satan has over their mind, spirit and emotions and lead them out of the enemy's territory. We have to stop thinking, talking and acting like slaves who want the world to change around us before we start believing we are victorious, that we are free. I think that where many of us have gotten stuck is right there. Our bags are packed, we have the map, the sea has parted, The Promise Land is good to go and there we sit, like bumps on a log, waiting for the good life to show up. We can't figure out what the hold up is...either we didn't do something right, or this is all complete and utter bullshit. No. We didn't forget one of the steps, we just need to take some up and out of our old home town. We gotta move, we gotta get up and start living, start hoping, start doing and being and dancing and singing. We have to stop sounding so effing pathetic and get a little chutzpuh...

The devil isn't going to be taken out of us, we are going to be taken out of his little, skinny, boney claws, set on solid ground, given our ticket outta there and a good swift kick in the butt towards home. Every step we take in the right direction is a blow to satan's evil scheme to kill us and take us out or lead us right back to where we came from. Every day. Don't rest on yesterday's obedience. Every day we are vulnerable to sitting down and giving up. Come on! Who's with me??

Read the Lord's Prayer (out loud) and Bless You.

Matthew 6:9-13 (King James Version)

9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11Give us this day our daily bread.

12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Beth

Thank You God

Frontenac, Minnesota Villa Maria Retreat Center

This place is so beautiful. I went for 3 days on a silent retreat and this was taken at about 4 in the afternoon. Villa Maria has a lot of classes and retreats, but I just go to be alone and talk to God without being interrupted a million times. It was a long overdue and desperately needed break; I highly recommend getting away once in a while and "getting your poop in a group".

On the day I took these photos, the wind was blowing through the field and it was so quiet and peaceful that I couldn't help but think of this poem. Frontenac is just past Red Wing and it's in a valley, so across the field I could see a couple of little farm houses tucked away and sky forever. Some days we need to remind ourselves that the world is really a lovely place and filled to overflowing with God's abundant beauty, love, protection and provision. When you're getting all crazy and anxious, try to just be still for a moment, close your eyes and just listen.

i thank You God for this amazing
e e cummings

i thank You God for most this amazing
day:for the leaping greenly spirits of trees
and a blue true dream of sky;and for everything
which is natural which is infinite which is yes

(i who have died am alive again today,
and this is the sun's birthday;this is the birth
day of life and love and wings:and of the gay
great happening illimitably earth)

how should tasting touching hearing seeing
breathing any--lifted from the no
of all nothing--human merely being
doubt unimaginable You?

(now the ears of my ears awake and
now the eyes of my eyes are opened)

Fleet Foxes

I love this band!

1st Chakra and the Armor of God

She's baaaccckkkk! hello all! I'm like the weebles...we wobble but we don't fall down!

I toyed with the idea of not continuing to write about this notion that the chakras of our bodies line up with the armor of God. Not because I'd changed my mind about it, but thought it might be too controversial and people would get caught up in the new age-y-ness of the language rather than the brilliance of God at the center. It's my belief that the New Agers have stolen all the coolest things about our faith and removed Jesus and the Christians gave up all the mysteries of our faith and only kept Christ. Like Jesus doesn't have anything to do with our emotions or health and has been relegated to being a spiritual cop.

Everything has to do with everything. Our bodies and minds are constantly receiving messages and trying to sync itself up to truth...whatever we believe that truth to be. If you believe that the negative things you heard as a kid or say to yourself now, your mind, body and spirit will try to operate around that negativity and try to resonate with it to keep you in balance. After so many years of orbiting around these lies, the system will begin to break down. In other words, we can only live in denial for so long before something starts to show signs of dysfunction. What do we good Christians do if we have chronic back pain? We go to a chiropractor or back specialist hoping they can fix us so we can continue to live like we always have and not deal with WHY it's there. I'm not saying that going to the doctor is wrong, but I'll guarantee you that if you don't listen to what you're body is trying to tell you and deal with it, the issue will either come back or it will move to another area that will be even scarier. I mean, if I need antibiotics, I'm taking them! But I think it's necessary to figure out why I'm experiencing the pain or sickness wherever it's presenting itself.

You know, every industry in the universe is experiencing declining sales except hospitals, cancer centers, or heart and valve clinics. Every hospital around us is remodeling and I wish now I would've become a registered nurse or oncologist (...stupid math!!!) because they have guaranteed employment forever. Sickness is increasing and we are flocking to the hospitals like there's no tomorrow. Christians will put their faith, their bodies and even their minds in the hands of physicians they've never met, take all kinds of pills that do God knows what to them, but mention healing touch or your chakras and they'll go absolutely wiggy. I know many, many psychologists, and their practices are going gangbusters; Christians have no problem with psychology or psychologists (especially if they call themselves Christian Psychologists), but in actuality, very few of them understand spiritual warfare, or, I'm sorry to say, have a good grip on the psychological depth and insight of scripture. By law, psychologists are not permitted to bring up religion of any kind unless the client specifically initiates the conversation. Ask a psychologist what they think about pastoral counselors and I would bet money that you'll get some eye-rolling and mini-speech about professional credentials and the necessary level of education. Anytime I've told someone what I do (Pastoral Counseling) the very next question they ask is where I went to school. (now this is other professionals, clients don't really care) I could be a terrible therapist, but if I went to Harvard they would go "ooohhh" and want to give me their cards and invite me to their networking groups. Don't even get me started on the whole coaching thing!

The spirit is not confined to our neat compartments of what is God and what He isn't. We need to let God out of the box and get ourselves back in it, if you ask me. We like things either in the good column or the bad column and the truth is, God don't play that way. He is what He is and He invented and created EVERYTHING for His purpose and for our benefit (even his correction!). All satan can do is pervert God's beautiful truth into a twisted up and evil lie; satan lies to us about the truth and makes us question God's Word. Remember Eve?? All the New Age has accomplished is to pirate the physical and spiritual laws that govern the universe, remove the authority of God, the truth of Jesus Christ, the power of the Holy Spirit and teach that WE possess the knowledge and power of God. Which, by the way, is the foundation of psychology--that WE have the answers inside us, and it's the therapist's role to help us access that truth. Essentially, we have God within us, which I suppose eliminates the need to have Him without us.

OK, Back to the Chakras:
The Root Chakra=the shoes of peace
Ephesians 6:15 And having shod your feet in preparation [to face the enemy with the ^[a]firm-footed stability, the promptness, and the readiness ^[b]produced by the good news] of the Gospel of peace.^(A)

FIGHT OR FLIGHT
The root chakra affects the sexual organs, legs, feet and pelvis area. It is located at the base of the spine and is the chakra where childhood experience is held. It is where we hold truth about the material world, basic survival and our instincts. The functionality of these areas reveal if you felt safe, secure, loved, abandoned or neglected and are still carrying those fundamental messages of not mattering around with you. If you were sexually abused or made to feel ashamed of your sexuality, sex or never held or physically nurtured, you might have physical problems with your sex organs, legs, feet or pelvic area. The root chakra is where your physical survival instincts are: it's the closest to the earth and represents earthly grounding. FEAR is felt in this area and controls your fight or flight response. When this area is off balance you might feel really angry, violent and even be constipated!!! I think this might even be the root cause of sexual addiction or the total lack of desire that some people struggle with. For each person it will be a bit different, but if you seek the truth, the Lord will reveal it to you.

STAND YOUR GROUND!!!
So, the shoes of peace...you gotta stand your ground with the confidence to face your enemy because you know you have the security, love, safety, and acceptance of your Father. You know He won't abandon you, you know He will provide for you, that He is your Rock and your comfort. You HAVE TO KNOW YOU ARE LOVED before you face the enemy. Your enemy is not your negative belief system...that's just the crap you have to go back and straighten out. Your enemy is satan. Make no mistake about that. It isn't your negative thoughts or your mother. But satan will use these wounds of your past to kick your ass; he will throw every fear you've ever had right in your face from people you love and trust. He will lie, cheat and steal to get you to pack it up and go home. Or...if you choose to remain ignorant about the lack of love or security you received as a child, ("oh, my parents did the best they could, lots of people had it way worse than I did...blah, blah, blah") the sexual abuse you suffered through, or abandonment you experienced, you will probably start to have physical problems with the areas defined by that chakra.

Note: Rather than go in the order of Chakras, I'm following how Paul laid this all out. It's how the Chakras fit in with the armor rather than the other way around. ALWAYS.

I'm not trying to build a bridge between Christians and New Agers or point out all the similarites so we can "all just get along". My goal with this is to get believers to take back what, by right, is ours: the power and glory of God. To filter all information through the truth of God and not God through all information. We are not to sift the Almighty God through The Secret or this new Ascended Masters bullshit and see what aspects of Him stick to their theories. Sift Eckert Tolle and Oprah through the brillance and perfection of Jesus Christ...some of it probably is legitimate and useful to us...but it must come through Jesus, not around him or without Him.